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MEDICAL STAFF and COACHING?

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Yo! 

 

Maybe, one or two already read my comments about the medical staff and what opinion I have about it. I read trough the articles in the forum, but couldn't find any topics about it.

But I'm sure, that besides the coaching staff, it is one of two significant reasons why we struggle to find our best starting eleven! Something many of us wouldn't ever consider, but fact is we have currently 11 players out of the game, because of injuries. That's why I opened that thread and hope to get some respond from you!

 

1) I demand to get rid of Geoff Scott and invest in a better physiotherapist and a working medical staff!

 

2) Stop favoritism and backscratching, when it comes to assign a job. I really question the abilities of Chris Ramsey and Les Ferdinand as first team coaches!

 

It's not the first time I mention this and I really would appreciate it, when somebody can place this article where it belongs -> to the management! 

 

 

In last summer I have sent an email to the custom care, like I always did during the last 3 years, when I've felt disappointed!

 

This is what I wrote:

 

What makes me furious about the club is, that many of our players are suffering injuries a very long period of time. Injuries they suffered in games, of course. But the numbers of injuries they get in the training is outstanding high! Why?
 
I'm really questioning your training methods and your medical unit. 
(but considering the injury history, it could also mean, wrong scouting!)
 
I read through articles and news about injuries and the following rehabilitation of players over the last years and have to say that they have taken ridiculous long! 
Time we don't have. Money we obviously don't have. Money which is  spent on positions we have well-staffed already, but which are needed to be replaced with new players, because of injuries. fatal!
 
To play for the top 4 places in the league you need a top staff too!!! it's unbelievable, but it's a complete first team. check it!
 
list of injuries (star player)
 
gomes
 
12/13 05.04.2013 Unknown Fractured Hand 09/10 22.08.2009 30.09.2009   08/09 11.01.2009 27.01.2009 muscular problems
 
daws
 
12/13 01.12.2012 16.12.2012 Hamstring Injury 11/12 12.09.2011 01.12.2011 Achilles tendon problems 10/11 03.09.2010 01.12.2010 Knee injury 09/10 01.08.2009 20.09.2009 Achilles tendon problems 08/09 21.01.2009 27.01.2009 Calf Problems 07/08 29.02.2008 06.03.2008 groin strain
 
vertonghen
 
13/14 24.07.2013 17.08.2013 Malleolar injury 11/12 13.04.2012 18.04.2012 Flu 11/12 11.07.2011 15.08.2011 groin strain 08/09 01.03.2009 05.04.2009
 
 
kaboul 
 
12/13 20.08.2012 07.04.2013 Knee injury 11/12 31.01.2012 18.02.2012 Knee-OP 10/11 31.01.2011 08.04.2011 Knee injury 10/11 21.09.2010 06.10.2010 Hamstring Injury 08/09 12.12.2008 26.12.2008 Malleolar injury 08/09 14.10.2008 24.10.2008 back trouble 07/08 14.03.2008 12.04.2008 Knee Problems
 
benny 
 
12/13 08.09.2012 04.01.2013 Knee injury 11/12 12.04.2012 10.08.2012   10/11 09.10.2010 15.10.2010 Knee injury 07/08 02.11.2007 01.06.2008 Knee injury 07/08 03.08.2007 16.09.2007 Knee injury
 
 
huddlestone
 
12/13 06.02.2013 08.03.2013 Knee injury 11/12 15.02.2012 30.06.2012 Knee-OP 11/12 23.09.2011 14.02.2012 Knee-OP 10/11 10.11.2010 01.02.2011 Malleolar injury 08/09 16.05.2009 30.07.2009 Knee Problems 08/09 16.08.2008 23.08.2008 Bone buckling
 
the beast
 
12/13 12.01.2013 19.07.2013 Knee-OP 11/12 12.07.2011 25.09.2011 Mensical Laceration
 
parker
 
12/13 20.07.2012 17.11.2012 Achilles tendon problems 10/11 16.04.2011 10.05.2011 Achilles tendon problems 09/10 01.01.2010 10.01.2010 Achilles tendon problems 08/09 26.10.2008 08.11.2008 Calf Problems 07/08 02.01.2008 10.03.2008 Knee Problems
dembele
 
12/13 16.10.2012 20.11.2012   11/12 14.01.2012 02.02.2012 Calf Problems 10/11 17.11.2010 08.01.2011 Malleolar injury 10/11 17.10.2010 06.11.2010   10/11 21.09.2010 15.10.2010 Shinbone injury 08/09 15.10.2008 27.12.2008 Mensical Damage
apparently again!
 
bale
 
12/13 04.04.2013 21.04.2013 Malleolar injury 12/13 01.12.2012 22.12.2012 Hamstring Injury 11/12 28.02.2012 06.03.2012 Hamstring Injury 10/11 07.05.2011 06.07.2011 Torn Ankle Joint Ligament 10/11 26.01.2011 23.02.2011 back trouble 09/10 01.08.2009 12.09.2009 Knee Problems 07/08 02.12.2007 01.08.2008 Torn Ankle Joint Ligament
 
lennon
 
12/13 04.04.2013 21.04.2013 Knee injury 09/10 01.01.2010 01.03.2010 groin strain 08/09 06.10.2008 15.10.2008 Intraarticular ligament crack
 
ade
 
12/13 03.03.2013 12.03.2013 Knee injury 12/13 22.10.2012 01.11.2012 back trouble 08/09 01.11.2008 30.11.2008   07/08 02.04.2008 05.04.2008 Malleolar injury
 
defoe
 
12/13 30.03.2013 21.04.2013   12/13 03.02.2013 03.03.2013 Malleolar injury 10/11 10.09.2010 08.12.2010 Malleolar injury 08/09 03.02.2009 20.04.2009 Fatigue Fracture 08/09 19.11.2008 30.11.2008 Calf Problems 08/09 19.11.2008 30.11.2008 Calf Problems 08/09 25.08.2008 01.09.2008 Ill
 
 
Nacer can keep pace with the list of injuries! I hope he won't continue this career in london!
 
thankfully, paulinho and soldado seem to be cut from a diffrent cloth!
 

 

And this email was followed by another one, with the same thematic priority some days ago! 

 

MEDICAL STAFF

 
Personal, but independent GP
 
Ever heard of Dr. Müller Wohlfahrt? Personal doctor of Bayern Munich, but who is not a member of their medical staff. The celebrities favorite doctor is working and operating in his clinic and rehab-centre  in Munich. Dr. Müller Wohlfahrt is the best in this field, why he also counts athlets like Usain Bolt, Cristiano Ronaldo, Marlene Ottey, Gerrard and Rio Ferdinand to his famous clients. Call him how you want it, but the independence of his own clinic gives him the freedom to test new methods in sport medicine and give him the chance to gain more experience, whether he works with athletes or ordinary people. While physiotherapists are the first port of call at the club, he is working with the injured players at his own clinic and is very successful in that manner. Was responsible for Badstuber's comeback, who was believed that he won't play for any club in the german BL again. 
 
Plus, we need a mental coach, who is incessant in modern football in these days! Someone players can trust and talk to, in times of trouble or feeling sore! The mental strength needs to be schooled and trained as well to keep nerves and show a winning attitude and have confidence even we lose or are behind.
For strikers, who are not scoring. Midfielders who are afraid of aerial duels (Paulinho). Focusing on a stable defensive gameplay and players that gave up to believe in their abilities!
 
thx
 
wish you a very merry X-mas and a happy new year
 
sorry for my English
 
kind regards
 
from an optimistic Spurs fan!
 

 

But there is more. One second, please!

 

Currently, all of these players are out, because of injuries! (but most of them get injured in the training)

 

Club Injuries Player Condition Expected Return* Next Match** TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR 11 R Soldado Knock no return date       K Naughton Hamstring Injury no return date       E Lamela Hip/Thigh Injury no return date       G Sigurdsson Calf/Shin Injury no return date       L Holtby Knock no return date       Paulinho Ankle/Foot Injury no return date       J Defoe Hamstring Injury 11th Jan 14       A Townsend Hamstring Injury 11th Jan 14       S Ranieri Calf/Shin Injury 11th Jan 14       Y Kaboul Hip/Thigh Injury 19th Jan 14  

 

I think, this injuries players say more than words!

 

What do you think?

 

THX, FOR YOUR TIME

 

COYS!

 

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Thank god, everything else would have been unforgivable!

 

Only shows me that Bolton has an even worse staff than us! It shouldn't even come to this accident! I was a huge fan of him and wanted to see him at the Lane!

The same happened to Besian Idrizaj an up coming starlet from my birth town. A friend to Mateo Kovacic (Inter) and who played for Liverpool and Swansea!

Wrong handling, wrong advices, greed and stubbornness, killed this young and talented boy! He wasn't that lucky.

 

He died at the age of only 22! 

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Ha ha. Don't worry, I have a job. It didn't take long for me. If you have a statement and knowledge in the world wide web it's easy! You need the right pages, copy it and paste it. That's all! ;-)

 

thx, for reading! To me it's a very important thing. It's too bad that you see things so different. 

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The question for me is how many first 11 starters were 100% fit for yesterday's game? I don't think rose and adebayor looked fit. I think what the op is mentioning is about long term repeating injuries measured proportionally against other prem sides? I don't have the answer but I think we've been guilty in the past of bringing back players too soon from injury.

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The question for me is how many first 11 starters were 100% fit for yesterday's game? I don't think rose and adebayor looked fit. I think what the op is mentioning is about long term repeating injuries measured proportionally against other prem sides? I don't have the answer but I think we've been guilty in the past of bringing back players too soon from injury.

Good point mate!

I think this is the case with Rose ATM, he doesn't look fit at all to me. Not going in to challenges the same, not moving as quick (and this ain't a dig because of his fuck up yesterday) he just looks like he's been rushed back because of the defensive situation. Hope we don't do it with Verts!

As Yiddy75 points out some news would be nice too, preferably good!

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Although EXTREMELY weary (sorry spurfect but it is lol) he does raise some good issues. There must be some explanation as to why our medical table is always full. It's not exactly a new problem either. Is it the pitch? Is it the training methods or simply put are our medical staff shit? Is Def something that should be looked into.

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great thread mate, seriously, don't know why youre getting shit for it.

 

when we were at Chigwell training ground I blamed the ground ( was on landfill site which is crap for football training and open to causing injuries and infections,  but now we are at the new place with allt eh mod cons, our injuries seem even worse, somethings not right with the staff or regime,  yes we saved Muambas life but that was actually a doctor in the stands who made himself known ( as legally required to do so) and done the main life saving work and also that is a one off freak scenario, not the day to day well being of pricey players

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There is a doctor at every ground where the crowd will exceed 2,000. It's a requirement of the "Green Guide" to safety at sports grounds. They will attend to players, but primarily their responsibility is the crowd.

 

 

At an event where the number of spectators is expected to exceed 2,000 (or a higher figure if substantiated within the medical plan and supported by alternative nursing or paramedic cover), at least one crowd doctor, qualified and experienced in pre-hospital immediate care should be present. These doctors’ first duty must be to the crowd.
It is likely that the crowd doctor will be drawn from a pool of appropriately trained and qualified individuals. Recommended training for crowd doctors should be the Pre-Hospital Emergency Care Course (PHEC) and the Major Incident Medical Management and Support Course (MIMMS) or equivalent relevant experience. 

 

 

 

Guide to Safety at Sports Grounds

 

Medical and first aid provision for spectators

The whereabouts of the crowd doctor in the ground should be known to all first aid and ambulance staff and to those stationed in the control point, who should be able to make immediate contact with him or her.

The crowd doctor should be at the sports ground prior to spectators being admitted and remain in position until all spectators have left.

The crowd doctor should be aware of:

a. the location and staffing arrangements of the first aid room and details of the ambulance cover 

b. the local emergency plans for dealing with major incidents and how these relate to contingency plans for the ground (see Chapter 3). 

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There is a doctor at every ground where the crowd will exceed 2,000. It's a requirement of the "Green Guide" to safety at sports grounds. They will attend to players, but primarily their responsibility is the crowd.

At an event where the number of spectators is expected to exceed 2,000 (or a higher figure if substantiated within the medical plan and supported by alternative nursing or paramedic cover), at least one crowd doctor, qualified and experienced in pre-hospital immediate care should be present. These doctors’ first duty must be to the crowd.

It is likely that the crowd doctor will be drawn from a pool of appropriately trained and qualified individuals. Recommended training for crowd doctors should be the Pre-Hospital Emergency Care Course (PHEC) and the Major Incident Medical Management and Support Course (MIMMS) or equivalent relevant experience.

Guide to Safety at Sports Grounds

Medical and first aid provision for spectators

The whereabouts of the crowd doctor in the ground should be known to all first aid and ambulance staff and to those stationed in the control point, who should be able to make immediate contact with him or her.

The crowd doctor should be at the sports ground prior to spectators being admitted and remain in position until all spectators have left.

The crowd doctor should be aware of:

a. the location and staffing arrangements of the first aid room and details of the ambulance cover

b. the local emergency plans for dealing with major incidents and how these relate to contingency plans for the ground (see Chapter 3).

Fuck me Boycie,thought you only knew about dodgy motors ;-)

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I'll have you know I was the LA appointed Ground Safety Officer at Cardiff Arms Park for 10 years !! ....... and before that used to sell cars!  I can still find you a nice little motor if you are looking.

 

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Here is another interesting bit of info ..... a lot of football ground pitches are designated as emergency mortuaries for use in the event of a major catastrophe.

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