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1 minute ago, Jamesinashby said:

An update to my special friends on here. 

I have just returned from speaking to a manager at the gym who has been brilliant. 

 The gym manager, who is  not in today, will arrange a meeting with himself, a specialist sports trainer, my doctor friend (who has agreed) and me to come up with a specific one on one programme to make me fitter and to regain my strength. The most encouraging thing thing is the doctor told me to compare my condition with glandular fever - it attacks the glands and organs for 2 years or more, but the people get better. Perhaps there is light at the end of the tunnel. 

Many, many thanks for all your support and efforts to keep my spirits up. Mr8 and Craig are having it tough as well than me, and as Mr8 put recently, this forum has been tremendous in helping us all through this pandemic. This forum has to be the best football forum ever. 

COYS 

 

That's the spirit and some positive news at last. It's half the battle knowing people around you are being supportive and helpful instead of just leaving you to sort it out alone. Okay so now you have a plan of action, let's hope our football club does too :thumb:

Great news James I'm sure it's really lifted your spirits. On behalf of everyone in the forum I would like to extend our sincere best wishes that your fitness team soon have you back to your old self.  COYS !!

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There is a God after all. I have just played bridge and we came top with 65 %

What started as looking to be a duff duff day has turned out as as pretty good if I ignore the the tiredness, breathlessness and light headedness.

I shall take a couple of days off and come back on for the England game.

Cheers

COYS

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35 minutes ago, Jamesinashby said:

There is a God after all. I have just played bridge and we came top with 65 %

What started as looking to be a duff duff day has turned out as as pretty good if I ignore the the tiredness, breathlessness and light headedness.

I shall take a couple of days off and come back on for the England game.

Cheers

COYS

Forget about being teetotal James, if you can win the bridge whilst feeling light headed then I suggest you have a couple of pints or a large brandy next week :thumb::z3:

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1 hour ago, Jamesinashby said:

There is a God after all. I have just played bridge and we came top with 65 %

What started as looking to be a duff duff day has turned out as as pretty good if I ignore the the tiredness, breathlessness and light headedness.

I shall take a couple of days off and come back on for the England game.

Cheers

COYS

The light at the end of the tunnel is looking slightly bigger my m8 ,,,winning gets the blood flowing and the brain working ,,,nice work fella .

just to make ya feel better and chuckle at me 1st time in ten went on site to fix a bay window cills woke up at 4 am crying the wife had to get me to the holy telephone for a piss ,,,,have pulled the muscle s in between my ribs on my right side all the way round ...all pain lol

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21 hours ago, SCIFIN17YID said:

If anyone has not had there jab well here you go and you get it at our stadium :) even is 20th of june this month so in 5 days !

https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/2021/june/tottenham-hotspur-stadium-to-open-its-doors-to-nhs-on-father-s-day/

 

Levy will have the self serve bars open too :-)  Good lad

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All good haven't reacted to the second jab at all, only feeling a little tired and drunk but that might because I stayed up all night drinking Crabbies ginger beer , which reminds me I need to get some....:dd:

Hope you're all getting your vaccinations sorted @Jamesinashby I hope your health has improved mate

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At long last there has been something about Long Covid on the news. Sadly it used those who had been really ill in hospital as examples of how it disrupted life. It said over £1 million are suffering with it and failed to make the point that the vast majority with it are like me - the actual Covid illness was comparatively mild. They have missed the chance to get through to those Covidots that think that Covid is not that bad and it is worth the risk of catching it. 

Right at the end, it slipped in that those 2 being interviewed about how it was affecting their lives may never get over it. That should have been hammered home during this brief part of the news. 

COYS 

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Bren and I been to Athlone for our second jabs today. Very well organised again and both of us in and out within 25 mins including 15 mins waiting in recovery area. Another couple of weeks and we should be at fullest possible immunity level (whatever that is). :bb:

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4 minutes ago, Borodin said:

Bren and I been to Athlone for our second jabs today. Very well organised again and both of us in and out within 25 mins including 15 mins waiting in recovery area. Another couple of weeks and we should be at fullest possible immunity level (whatever that is). :bb:

I have my second  jab next week :em11:

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We are unlikely to get anywhere near to being on top of this virus. That said, with this vaccination programme going out so rapidly and working so well, I think we must drop these restrictions on July 19th even if this spike gets higher. We now must accept it as a part of life like flu. 

Andrew Marr was one of the tiny minority having had 2 jabs but still caught the virus. He didn't die or have to go into hospital. He did have a few horrible days, but got over it. No big deal. 

I think we need to now accept it if a few people die and a some go into hospital. The real problem now is taking away the threat of losing jobs or even the roof over your head and get industry and commerce up and running again

OK, I have Long Covid and it has seriously disrupted my life, but it is copeable. It is more important to get people like Craig back in work and there are hundreds of thousands like him. Their worries and miseries are much, much worse than mine, so let's get on with normal life and accept the tiny minority casualties. 

COYS 

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3 hours ago, Jamesinashby said:

We are unlikely to get anywhere near to being on top of this virus. That said, with this vaccination programme going out so rapidly and working so well, I think we must drop these restrictions on July 19th even if this spike gets higher. We now must accept it as a part of life like flu. 

Andrew Marr was one of the tiny minority having had 2 jabs but still caught the virus. He didn't die or have to go into hospital. He did have a few horrible days, but got over it. No big deal. 

I think we need to now accept it if a few people die and a some go into hospital. The real problem now is taking away the threat of losing jobs or even the roof over your head and get industry and commerce up and running again

OK, I have Long Covid and it has seriously disrupted my life, but it is copeable. It is more important to get people like Craig back in work and there are hundreds of thousands like him. Their worries and miseries are much, much worse than mine, so let's get on with normal life and accept the tiny minority casualties. 

COYS 

We have coped with a lot more as a nation. We will learn to live with Covid like we do with 'flu and housemaid's knee

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47 minutes ago, Cromulentmart said:

We have coped with a lot more as a nation. We will learn to live with Covid like we do with 'flu and housemaid's knee

I didn't know there was a vaccine for housemaids knee. I'll have to get some for Bren :thumb:

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1 hour ago, Cromulentmart said:

We have coped with a lot more as a nation. We will learn to live with Covid like we do with 'flu and housemaid's knee

Some might, maybe even a majority, but if you watched the local Midlands TV news, every day it is full of sob stories from those alleging they are stressed out and complaining not enough is being done to help them.

You will cope, but I question the "Royal we" as that is far removed from the impression I get watching the news. 

However, each to there own. 

COYS 

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Just announced over here that indoor dining and drinking now put back until July 19th and then only open to people who can prove they've been fully vaccinated. It's going to be chaos trying to monitor and control that.

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15 minutes ago, Borodin said:

Just announced over here that indoor dining and drinking now put back until July 19th and then only open to people who can prove they've been fully vaccinated. It's going to be chaos trying to monitor and control that.

It’s an absolute joke lad..

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12 minutes ago, Jay said:

It’s an absolute joke lad..

It's only going to get worse later on. Your vaccination card will be a social passport and without one people will struggle to travel overseas or work too.

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When people say it will be like living with flu, they are way of the mark. 

Coronavirus is far more deadly and spreads like wildfire - much, much worse than flu. Also, when it mutates the mutation is more severe than any of the flu mutations which have never started a worldwide pandemic on the the lines this Covid-19 virus. Also, it needs the whole of the population to be vaccinated. Even the SARS & MERS coronavirus epidemics were localised and never ripped through the world and there have been small outbreaks every year in some of the Far Eastern countries. 

The current vaccinations are brilliant, but they cannot be 100% certain to stop people catching the virus. Those people who think living with Covid is the same as living with Flu are living in cloud cuckoo land. There will still be restrictions of some sort with Spikes until the whole world is vaccinated which could take decades.

Some illnesses can be wiped out, but not a virus. 

COYS 

 

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Should have been stopped at source last year but China, WHO and world leaders dithered .

China totally to blame disgusting country, been there and even posh people in posh hotels just spit on the floor , absolute scumhole , theres no way the world should still be trading with this craphole.

WHO should be defunded, disbanded and had up for mass manslaughter , what was their fantastic advice, wash your hands for 20 seconds ...........  waste of space and money 

World leaders kept flights going and borders open and allowed people to' come home' from infected countries endangering the UK based peoples (in our case) 

NHS done their best and were and are brilliant 

Now I just wanna holiday in say Portugal, had both jabs, my 14 days are up, im applying for my vaccine passport and going to a beach somewhere hot 

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4 hours ago, Jamesinashby said:

When people say it will be like living with flu, they are way of the mark. 

Coronavirus is far more deadly and spreads like wildfire - much, much worse than flu. Also, when it mutates the mutation is more severe than any of the flu mutations which have never started a worldwide pandemic on the the lines this Covid-19 virus. Also, it needs the whole of the population to be vaccinated. Even the SARS & MERS coronavirus epidemics were localised and never ripped through the world and there have been small outbreaks every year in some of the Far Eastern countries. 

The current vaccinations are brilliant, but they cannot be 100% certain to stop people catching the virus. Those people who think living with Covid is the same as living with Flu are living in cloud cuckoo land. There will still be restrictions of some sort with Spikes until the whole world is vaccinated which could take decades.

Some illnesses can be wiped out, but not a virus. 

COYS 

 

I think the point that was trying to be made was that in years to come as technology advances the covid virus will be able to be controlled and it's deadly effects reduced dramatically. It will never be totally eradicated and is something the world will have to live with. In a way people like yourself who suffer from the debilitating Long Covid will become the pioneers of future treatments and vaccines. Like any other virus it is only through years and years of research (and unfortunately suffering) that medical advances can be made. Future generations will look back on this terrible pandemic and hopefully realise the sacrifices made.

Let us not forget for example the deadly HIV virus which originally was a death sentence for anyone who contracted it. Now people are able to live relatively normal lives with the medicines available.

The greatest example of a deadly flu was the Spanish Flu pandemic which lasted from Feb 1918 to April 1920. It infected 500 million people (one third of the World's population). The death toll is estimated as anything between 20 million and 50 million. (Current stats for covid are just under 4 million worldwide) https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-toll/.

That too originated from China and came in a series of four deadly waves. I never realised just how serious it was until reading this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu

 

 

 

 

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50 minutes ago, Jay said:

Got the second jab Monday,was a bit sick,but feeling a lot better now.

I was exactly the same but my wife was in her bed for two days. Perfectly okay now though :thumb:

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An update on what is happening in my fight to regain good health. 

2 weeks ago I started on a 12 week programme to build up my fitness and muscles which has greatly deteriorated.

I have managed to get to the gym 5 times and have been slowly increasing the intensity each time. When I went yesterday, as I had done so well on previous  visits, and having been so fit and strong for 66 years prior to getting Long Covid, I took a risk and raised the intensity to that set at the 6 week level. Having a 3 month programme made me impatient. During the exercises, apart from quite an increase in breathlessness, there were no heart pains, and I thought I had got away with it. By the afternoon, I was feeling wrecked and the heart pains were quite severe - they are still lingering in the back ground as I type this! 

It would appear that having determination and the will and drive to accelerate the recovery doesn't work. Oh well! I may have been stupid, but they can't say I didn't try. 

I am having an MRI cardiac stress profusion coming up next Wednesday which is not going to be too pleasant. I will be injected with 2 drugs that will stimulate the heart and make it work to the level of high intensity activity. They take deep scan of the heart functioning and measuring the amount of blood and oxygen being pumped, and keeping this up for 45 minutes. Yes, 45 minutes!! It sounds like a "kill or cure" remedy to me. 

The joys of Long Covid - if it's on your bucket list, take it off. LOL

COYS 

 

 

 

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41 minutes ago, Jamesinashby said:

An update on what is happening in my fight to regain good health. 

2 weeks ago I started on a 12 week programme to build up my fitness and muscles which has greatly deteriorated.

I have managed to get to the gym 5 times and have been slowly increasing the intensity each time. When I went yesterday, as I had done so well on previous  visits, and having been so fit and strong for 66 years prior to getting Long Covid, I took a risk and raised the intensity to that set at the 6 week level. Having a 3 month programme made me impatient. During the exercises, apart from quite an increase in breathlessness, there were no heart pains, and I thought I had got away with it. By the afternoon, I was feeling wrecked and the heart pains were quite severe - they are still lingering in the back ground as I type this! 

It would appear that having determination and the will and drive to accelerate the recovery doesn't work. Oh well! I may have been stupid, but they can't say I didn't try. 

I am having an MRI cardiac stress profusion coming up next Wednesday which is not going to be too pleasant. I will be injected with 2 drugs that will stimulate the heart and make it work to the level of high intensity activity. They take deep scan of the heart functioning and measuring the amount of blood and oxygen being pumped, and keeping this up for 45 minutes. Yes, 45 minutes!! It sounds like a "kill or cure" remedy to me. 

The joys of Long Covid - if it's on your bucket list, take it off. LOL

COYS 

 

 

 

The lesson to be learnt is fairly obvious my friend. Listen to the advice of the professionals and don't try and run before you can walk. Learn to control your impatience and temper it with the knowledge that you are making progress, however small it may be. You really do need a good talking to, it's not about will and determination it is about there being a plan in place and you sticking to the schedule. Thank God you only tried to jump a week ahead and not a fortnight :em5:.

Unfortunately you can no longer compare your fitness levels to those of pre-covid days. Accept your limitations and live within them. You have a good professional team around you so

DO AS THEY SAY !

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